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Naxr



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Location: England

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:22 am    Post subject: Trolling Reply with quote

Just had someone create, troll and leave. Luckily I was the only one on.

Dawn Output:

17:20:40> <Callister chats>: 'Hey everyone, how is going? Boring if you are on here.'
17:20:40> <Callister chats>: 'Well there is an answer. Its a new mud with friendly staff, 150+ great areas, and great color
schemes.'
17:20:41> <Callister chats>: 'So if you are tired of this boring mud, log onto mud.dcc.online.pt    port 3456'
17:20:41> <Callister chats>: 'Change is good, so try it out'
17:20:41> <Callister chats>: 'And if you log now, you get the ultimate newbie item.'


From I.P. 68.119.123.4



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snailian



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:44 am    Post subject: Quest for the Ultimate Newbie Item! Reply with quote

The ultimate newbie item?!?!

I just had to quest for this ultimate newbie item

Who are you?:
bob
Illegal name, try another.
Name:
new
Illegal name, try another.
Name:
callister

I logged into the mud and tried to create something as super awsome as the Ultimate Newbie Item or UNI. I tried to make a vampire ninja... which is an illegal combination :[ and then a vampire necromancer which it wouldn't let me, BUT I could make a vampire paladin Confused

So there Callister the level 1 Neutral sex Vampire Paladin was, fresh and ready to quest for the legendary UNI. A quick who showed that 'it' was the only being in the realm, how lonely and boring. :]

Cal looked around and saw that he was just south of CandyLand. Cal remembered hearing how this realm is colorful, which it is. Color is tastelessly jumping out of nearly every character. Cal decides to follow the yellow brick road to stop such madness and it finds that it's littered with yellow bricks that are ALIVE!

An Odd Colored Brick is here.

[20|20]hp [100|100]mn [84|100]mv [695]xp >
An Odd Colored Brick leaves south.

Wow a moving brick!
Being a Vampire Paladin of virtue and death, Cal attacks the brick, it's logical right?

Your slash wounds A Yellow Brick!
A Yellow Brick is DEAD!!!
You receive 55 of 55 experience points.
A Yellow Brick spills its guts all over the floor.
You get a pile of 45 gold coins from corpse of A Yellow Brick.
You counted 45 coins.
You get a pair of Newbie Leggings here. from corpse of A Yellow Brick.
You get a pair of Newbie sleeves. from corpse of A Yellow Brick.
Corpse of A Yellow Brick contains:

The sun glares straight down on you.
You feel immense pain as the sun light misses you.
You are starving!
You are dehydrated!

But being in CandyLand and surrounded by bricks that don't bleed, Callister can't do much about it :[

Callister starts to find itself getting hungry so it eats the Yellow Brick guts.
Not so good for being in CandyLand.

Callister gets tired of candyland and recalls to see where it'll land. Cal recalls to a fountain of blood. Too cool!

Hrmm should I drink it or not, If I don't I'll die... but I really shouldn't because I'm a pally... ah wth.

drink
You drink blood from a Bloody fountain.
You are full.
You feel bloated.

How lovely. Cal starts to regret getting that fast food.
Cal notices some other vampires healing it from across the room.

L
Safe room for vampires to heal and hide from the sun.
A Holy Altar stands here.
A fire burns brightly in here.
A Bloody fountain is here girgling.
(Aura)(Aura)Vindella, a healer is here.
(Aura)(Aura)Vampirella, Vindella's sister is here.

L vindella
You do not see that here.

Yes, yes I do see vindella, now tell me what they look like! GRRR

Still the only one in the realm, as the beings it sees it can't look at, Cal wanders off aimlessly. Cal comes across a blank room... where the walls stare.

A Plain Room in Mud School
[Exits: south west]
You're in a room that is blank with nothing but the walls staring at
you, and the Acolyte of Vandergaard. The Acolyte has a blank face and
it looks at you as you step into the room. There is nothing of intrest
to the room, but the knowledgable acolyte may give you some information
on how to begin.
The Acolyte holds a sign.
(Aura)(Aura)The Acolyte of Vandergaard stands here, snickering at you.
You glare at The Acolyte of Vandergaard.
The Acolyte of Vandergaard says 'Greetings, Callister! If you would like a gift from the staff,'
The Acolyte of Vandergaard says 'simply "say gift"'

[20|20]hp [100|100]mn [88|100]mv [44]xp >
say gift
You say 'gift'
The Acolyte of Vandergaard says 'Sure, here you are'
The Acolyte of Vandergaard gives Belt of Trust to you.
The Belt of Trust can only be used by you.

SWEET! This is the Incredible UNI!

[20|20]hp [100|100]mn [88|100]mv [44]xp >
wear belt
You wear Belt of Trust about your waist.
Your feet rise off the ground.

[20|42]hp [100|122]mn [88|100]mv [44]xp >
You are starving!
You are DEAD!!!

WTF?

After all that Callister died from starvation, after being bloated from blood only minutes prior to putting on this so called Belt of TRUST.
I have come to the conclusion that the Ultimate Newbie Item is a trap.
Notice that it raised my maxHP and maxMANA, but it KILLED ME.

(actually Cal just starved somehow in just a few minutes, and rather than the HP going down slowly, you just die). The color is horrible in that mud, If you want a good laugh (poor little admin :[ ) check out the mud and just try the dumbest things and see them work, and MANY of the logical things don't.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah I stopped by a couple of times.... this last one they purged me for some strange reason.... couldnt have been because my titled said "on a mud doing a Callister"

to much color, and I hate having to type out a full name to kill something... stock dawn with all areas removed is much better then that POS they are pushing



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I'd drop by and see the wonder. Now as some of the people here won't know what we mean by "eye-hurting colour", I'll have to show then. And I'll throw in some interesting problems as well. Let's see now.

Dawn Output:
[20|32]hp [111|111]mn [110|113]mv [1156]xp > i
You are carrying:
( 4) a Newbie Bracer.
( 2) a Newbie Cape.
( 2) a Newbie Belt.
( 2) a pair of Newbie Boots.
( 2) a pair of Newbie Gloves.
( 3) a Newbie Helmet.
( 2) a Newbie Cloak.
a Newbie Sword
a Newbie Shield.
a Newbie Vest.
(Glowing) a war banner 


Now that's my inventory.

On to wearing one of these things! (I'll spare you the colour)



[32|32]hp [111|111]mn [113|113]mv [1156]xp > wear newbie
You wield a Newbie Sword.

[32|32]hp [111|111]mn [113|113]mv [1156]xp > wear newbie
You do not have that item.

[32|32]hp [111|111]mn [113|113]mv [1156]xp >

Hang on, what about all that newbie gear?

I've obviously played a bit longer. If you want to use abbreviations, you have to fight through candyland until you see a sign. Read it....


[62|62]hp [135|135]mn [134|140]mv [1887]xp > w
Wooden Bridge
[Exits: east south]
You stand on a wooden bridge that extends a small distance to
the east. On the other side of the bridge is a forest, you
can already hear the calls of the spearow. Below the bridge
is a slow moving river, loaded with Staryu and Magikarp.
A Staryu sprays water in your face.

A sign is planted firmly in the ground.

[62|62]hp [135|135]mn [128|140]mv [1887]xp > look sign
Please note that it is very important that the config option
abbreviate is ON. To turn this option on, type "Config +abb"
without the quotes.

Derezo

[62|62]hp [135|135]mn [128|140]mv [1887]xp >

Oh yeah, pokemon! Cool! And original! As well as the wizard of oz.So to be able to use abbreviations, you need to fight through and look at one sign.... Okay. Also, doing this gives you the hp of the mob you're fighting. And it changes colour as it goes down! e.g.

[62|62]hp [135|135]mn [140|140]mv [1887]xp [14] >

Also, it's really difficult to distinguish between the text and mobs, as it's all in white. As for the "gift", I had to ask about it, and it took a while for an imm to notice and inform me that you could only get it at level 1. I'd walked past him about 50 times as well! I was level 5 by that time, so he was quite nice and gave me it. More imms than players it seems though. As for the belt. Well it gave me more mana/hp and cast fly, which apparently only one other item will at low levels. 800 of them in total.

It's an envy codebase apparently, and it seems suited to powerlevelling. Which is easy. But the colours, ooh the pretty, painful colours. Oh, and a whole area dedicated to pokemon. There's even a professor oak askinf for help with a pikachu.....



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In [dawn] and [/dawn] you can use the same colour system as in the mud.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject: Trolling Reply with quote

You're luckier than I was. I went there after the first post.....
First time I couldn't even connect period.
Second time, no one was on and I quit after a while.
Third time, I had to recreate (turns out you can't save till level 2) and Callister followed me room to room (pretty creepy, I hate when Imms can't even let me go to mud school without following me).


I have to say though, I wasn't surprised by the low quality of the mud experience there. I've spent a few days running around looking at a lot of muds to check out how things out there are. It was a shocking and rather disappointing experience. (I didn't troll, of course. My mud's not open to the public and trolling is just unethical.)

Many muds were stock, or a mix of several themes that didn't mesh. A lot have bad colour schemes or just too much color. Many that are listed on mud listing sites don't connect or won't let you log in. Almost all of them have a varient on one of the several mud schools that we've all been to dozens of times.

It's sad to say, but a lot of muds out there don't have a lot of effort put in to them. It does give us that do work a lot on ours a sense of pride in what we have accomplished though.



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I logged in again this morning, and had a little experience with the players I wanted to see who was actually trolling:

The silver writing are my comments, and I do have better communication skills than shown.

Dawn Output:


who

{    Veteran    }Falthos Ghimli IMPLODES violently into nothingness!
{   Adventurer  }Trevor the Ranger
{    Traveler   }TannLok The Devoted Follower of Supercow !!!
{     Novice    }Callister Cheeky Monkey

Falthos appears in the room.

You say 'ahh it's falthos'

Falthos tells you 'who are you? lol'

You reply to Falthos 'I'm callister!'

poke falth
You poke him in the ribs.

Falthos tells you 'your first char?'

You say 'yes, I'm from candyland'

Falthos says 'nvm, forget i asked lol'

TannLok appears in the room.

poke tann
You poke him in the ribs.

Falthos says 'im guessing your koser but there is no telling lol'

You ask 'how did you know?'

pout
Ah, don't take it so hard.

Falthos says 'Cheeky Monkey gave it away'

You say 'Oh I forgot I put that up'

Falthos laughs.

Falthos says 'i was just curious cause your name freaks me out'

TannLok asks 'kyle?'

Falthos says 'no, callister'

You say 'Its not a freaky name'

Falthos says 'lol'

You ask 'why does it freak you out?'

Falthos asks 'how many alts do you have now?'

You say 'hrmm 4'     *lies, all lies!*

Falthos says 'lol'

TannLok tells you 'hey'

Falthos tells you 'ill say in tells'

You reply to Falthos 'hi'

Falthos tells you 'did matt tell you about the advertising thing?'

TannLok asks 'Callister's koser?'

You reply to Falthos 'no, what's going on?'

Falthos says 'i suppose lol'

Falthos tells you 'we had the idea of logging on random muds and advertising this mud'

TannLok asks 'y did he make another char???'

Falthos tells you 'to keep my name anonymous i used the name kalister....and now your name is almost like it'

You reply to Falthos 'wow, that's a coincidence'

Falthos tells you 'no sh*t, that freaked me out, i thought someone made the char to b***h me out lol'      bleeped for forum

TannLok says 'i dont think its koser'     *he's on to me*

You reply to Falthos 'no worries, I wont b***h you out lol'

Falthos tells you 'lol'

You reply to Falthos 'matt didn't say anything about it at all'

Falthos tells you 'who is tannlok? anyone you know?'       
* I knew that tannlok knew koser better than I so it didn't go well with him, I lie to Falthos*

You reply to Falthos 'no I think he's a new player'

Falthos tells you 'ahh'

Falthos tells you 'ramus thought it was funny that we advertised, we actually recruited a few people that wya'

You reply to Falthos 'thats cool, maybe tann is from the advertising'  

Falthos tells you 'possibly'

Falthos tells you 'hey, do you know anything about building on here?'

You reply to Falthos 'I like this name actually, so if anyone comes to bitch someone out, they'll come to me!'

Falthos tells you 'rofl, yeah'

You reply to Falthos 'I know a little yeah'

Falthos tells you 'i wont use kalister anymore'

Falthos tells you 'do you know how to delete an addapply?'

You reply to Falthos 'there should be helpfiles for that I think'

Falthos tells you 'i dont know where to look for them'

TannLok says 'Callister doesnt seem like a name koser would pick. Nor would he be neuter instead of male. It is also 2 early 4 him 2 be on. but i clould be wrong'
*GRR at least we get your name kid*

Falthos asks 'who are you tann?'

TannLok asks 'Jake Bussey. u?'

Falthos says 'whats up man'

Falthos says 'its kevin heckler'    *and yours*

You tell TannLok 'this is a joke character to bug falthos'

Falthos says 'and yes that is koser lol'

TannLok tells you 'o i c'

Falthos says 'Cheeky Monkey says it all ol'

Falthos says 'lol*'

TannLok says 'well thats the only thing that char had goin 4 it'   *He's right*

TannLok tells you 'u awake this early?'

Falthos says 'yeah, i had to ask when i saw that'

You reply to TannLok 'actually I have to get heading to bed, I havent slept yet

Falthos tells you 'did you know that was jake all along?'

TannLok tells you 'i figured as much'

TannLok tells you 'y callister?'

You tell Falthos 'no I didn't know'

Falthos tells you 'lol'

You tell TannLok 'falthos was advertising on other muds with kalister so I made this one to joke with him'

Falthos tells you 'i messed up my necro's stats....i gotta get matt to fix them

Falthos tells you 'mana and moves are in the negatives'

TannLok tells you 'y neuter'

You reply to TannLok 'I usually make males, I didn't want him to think it was me, but I forgot about setting my title to cheeky monkey'

TannLok tells you 'a paladin vampire??'    *ridiculus ain't it*


Falthos says 'i wish i was an imm so i could force you to go south and drink lol'   *slightly useful*

Falthos says 'death spam....sheesh'

You say 'Ill just go drink brb'

*I go south to drink, and Tannlok follows me, Unfortunatly it's a normal fountain with water, being a vampy I couldn't drink it so I recalled to the  bloating blood fountain. I drink and head back to the spot where everyone is.*

You say 'I should get to sleep'

TannLok tells you 'what is the story with cheeky monky'

Falthos says 'lol'

Falthos asks 'how long have you been up?'

You reply to TannLok 'since yesterday '    *misstell*

TannLok tells you 'who got u playin'

You reply to TannLok 'falthos'

You say 'since yesterday'

Falthos says 'same here lol'

Falthos says 'well, last night anyway'

You ask 'eh arent your eyes tired?'

Falthos says 'i had insomnia until 8 am yesterday, crashed until 6'

Falthos says 'nah, i gotta stay up to get to sleep tonight'

You say 'I hope you make it'

You say 'I have to sleep'

Falthos says 'i made it throught the night easily due to a buzz'

You say 'goodnight'

Falthos says 'night'

Come back soon to Lands of Lore




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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One way we handle trolls or people wanting to spam/post advertising/flame mail is to restrict those who are not level 5+ and letgained to a newbie area, newbietalk only, and no posting ability. It works quite well for us. I have seen people come on to try to post an ad/flame and spend 10 mintes typing up their post, only to have right at the ends say:

You cannot post at this time.


Its even more fun when you watched them waste 10-15 minutes, then pop in and ask them if they are having fun, then siteban them.

With out imms and newbiehelpers being the only ones (besides newbies) with the ability to use newbiechat, the majority of the mud is spared from some troller.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh - I haven't had any issues with this "Callister" yet.

Is he running a Dawn-based MUD or advertising for another Dawn based MUD?



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: fighting back for the little guy Reply with quote

This is in response to a earlier post about lots of dot muds that are poorly staffed or just stock with little variations.... I am running a mud that is open and has minimal playerbase... very little changes to the stock code... and I'm doing my best here to make this my own mud by mainly adding skills spells and areas, not really changing too much style of the mud. I'm not sure if you are even talking about me but I am married and work many hours and do not have all the time to spend on my little world.... I may be wrong but I am sure others are in the same boat as me and can't change much that fast. I wish that you would not put us little people down when we cant change much as quickly as many others want to see. I do this just for the fun of muds and hanging out as well as trying to learn to code a little along the way.


as for the trollers which I have not experienced yet... send em to h*ll... Thats worse than spam email...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daos:
The mud that was being advertised was running the envy codebase. I think the trollers just went to mudconnector and logged into random muds and Naxr's just happened to be one of them.

Gatekeeper:

Quote:
have to say though, I wasn't surprised by the low quality of the mud experience there. I've spent a few days running around looking at a lot of muds to check out how things out there are. It was a shocking and rather disappointing experience. (I didn't troll, of course. My mud's not open to the public and trolling is just unethical.)

Many muds were stock, or a mix of several themes that didn't mesh. A lot have bad colour schemes or just too much color. Many that are listed on mud listing sites don't connect or won't let you log in. Almost all of them have a varient on one of the several mud schools that we've all been to dozens of times.

It's sad to say, but a lot of muds out there don't have a lot of effort put in to them. It does give us that do work a lot on ours a sense of pride in what we have accomplished though.



I don't think that this statement was aimed at you in any way. If you check out the trollers mud "LOL" you'll see what was meant by the lack of effort. The fact that you ARE trying and working on things is what matters. I think the comment was aimed towards those who lack the effort and not those who lack the resources. You're doing fine, just keep with it.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: Apologies Reply with quote

Ah, I'm terribly sorry. I just got worked up a bit when I thought I was being indirectly "dissed" for not working so fast and accomplishing much. again sorry. I'd rather not check out the troller and letting him think that his efforts are working by bringing people to his mud tho.

again sorry
shawn.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:34 pm    Post subject: Poorly Done Muds Reply with quote

No, no, no. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on my earlier post. I said "Many muds" and I certainly didn't mean Dawn muds. I spent a lot of time traveling muds listed on the mud listing sites.... and it is a scary world out there for sure.

I really haven't spent any time at any other Dawn muds but if this forum is any indication, I'm sure a lot of you out there have unique games that have a lot of effort and time put into them.

If you've spent time out there 'surfing' muds to see what all is out there, you'd know what I meant about the majority of them not being suitable to be open much less claiming that they're original or complete. This Callister isn't on a Dawn mud but he is running very stock areas that come with many ROM and ENVY type muds.

In fact, the mud I work on is no where near ready to open. I wish you the best in your endevours. It's a long road to a quality mud, one that we're all on. Seriously if you're at all bored one night, go surf mudconnector or topmudsites or something... It's an eyeopener. A 100% stock Dawn mud would pretty much blow 95% of the muds out there out of the water just as is. It's a very well done, stable and well thought out codebase.



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am so sad I tried to log on but the mud is apparently already gone.

It's sooooo sad that such a great mud with uber cool newbie items is gone! How will I ever live now?! *sarcasm*

-Keth


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